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		<title>By: facts_not_fear</title>
		<link>http://blog.aflcio.org/2010/05/20/real-issue-behind-immigration-corporate-race-to-the-bottom/comment-page-1/#comment-20185</link>
		<dc:creator>facts_not_fear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 22:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good come back, &quot;Dr&quot;.  when you have no answer to a valid argument, just scream &quot;SOCIALIST&quot;.  Debate over.   From your mature and reasoned response, I can only assume that you don&#039;t think our trade policy has anything to do with immigration, which would cast quite a shadow of doubt on any other arguments you have on the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good come back, &#8220;Dr&#8221;.  when you have no answer to a valid argument, just scream &#8220;SOCIALIST&#8221;.  Debate over.   From your mature and reasoned response, I can only assume that you don&#8217;t think our trade policy has anything to do with immigration, which would cast quite a shadow of doubt on any other arguments you have on the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: citizen4</title>
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		<dc:creator>citizen4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 17:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was one Jerry Wells postings that provided the knowledge that finally pushed me to just say it I&#039;m a socialist. Hopefully before to long I will be a card carrying socialist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was one Jerry Wells postings that provided the knowledge that finally pushed me to just say it I&#8217;m a socialist. Hopefully before to long I will be a card carrying socialist.</p>
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		<title>By: IllegalsGoHome</title>
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		<dc:creator>IllegalsGoHome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 20:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;&quot;The construction industry’s business model is a “race to the bottom” predicated on exploitation of undocumented workers, Ayers says. That model has devastated construction workers’ wages. In fact, Ayers says, real wages for construction workers were 17 percent lower in 2006 than in 1973, adjusted for inflation.&quot;&lt;&lt;&gt;&gt;&quot;Even when contractors are making money, workers are not seeing the gains. According to the federal government’s economic census, contractors’ profits grew between 1977 and 2002. However, the proportion of construction receipts spent for payroll and benefits actually declined by almost 14 percent during the same period, Ayers says.&quot;&lt;&lt;&gt;&gt;&quot;Ayers says it is simply idiotic for us, as a nation, to pass law after law-like the one in Arizona-and arrest someone with brown skin&quot;&lt;&lt;&lt;

Watch out Ayers, someone will accuse you of &#039;racial profiling&#039; if you&#039;re not careful. LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&#8221;The construction industry’s business model is a “race to the bottom” predicated on exploitation of undocumented workers, Ayers says. That model has devastated construction workers’ wages. In fact, Ayers says, real wages for construction workers were 17 percent lower in 2006 than in 1973, adjusted for inflation.&#8221;&lt;&lt;&gt;&gt;&#8221;Even when contractors are making money, workers are not seeing the gains. According to the federal government’s economic census, contractors’ profits grew between 1977 and 2002. However, the proportion of construction receipts spent for payroll and benefits actually declined by almost 14 percent during the same period, Ayers says.&#8221;&lt;&lt;&gt;&gt;&#8221;Ayers says it is simply idiotic for us, as a nation, to pass law after law-like the one in Arizona-and arrest someone with brown skin&#8221;&lt;&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>Watch out Ayers, someone will accuse you of &#8216;racial profiling&#8217; if you&#8217;re not careful. LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Nozzey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nozzey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 18:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thye problem is that the worker we  are addressing is an llegal Alien,DUH! You do not find anything wrong with the fact that an undocumented person is trespassing only that he isn&#039;t getting a fair wage! Stop skirting around the real issue. Not all illegals are so productive . Many  are sucking up the free welfare ride, hospitalization, education and incarceration, to mention a few of their other activities. hOW MANY DAY LABORERS ARE GETTING CASH IN THE ENVELOPE every day. Do you think the I.R.S. is getting their cut ? 
   We have room for legal immigrants and when they assimilate into our country&#039;s laws, loyalties and the Enlish language they will be covered by the same &quot;crippled Constitution&quot;   that all American&#039;s must do. Immigration laws pertaining to immigrants do not apply to illegal ,non immigrant,criminal trespassers. 
    You and our country would be better served by putting your energy into demabding our borders be secured and all illegals deported as fast as we can gas up the buses. If youi were born American then act like one. Call on your government to do it&#039;s sworn duty and stop dragging their feet. I was born in The U.S.A. before it became the U.S. of Mexico, Puerto Rico, Panama etc. Stick your  Spanish language SIGNS and INSTRUCTIONS where the sun does not shine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thye problem is that the worker we  are addressing is an llegal Alien,DUH! You do not find anything wrong with the fact that an undocumented person is trespassing only that he isn&#8217;t getting a fair wage! Stop skirting around the real issue. Not all illegals are so productive . Many  are sucking up the free welfare ride, hospitalization, education and incarceration, to mention a few of their other activities. hOW MANY DAY LABORERS ARE GETTING CASH IN THE ENVELOPE every day. Do you think the I.R.S. is getting their cut ?<br />
   We have room for legal immigrants and when they assimilate into our country&#8217;s laws, loyalties and the Enlish language they will be covered by the same &#8220;crippled Constitution&#8221;   that all American&#8217;s must do. Immigration laws pertaining to immigrants do not apply to illegal ,non immigrant,criminal trespassers.<br />
    You and our country would be better served by putting your energy into demabding our borders be secured and all illegals deported as fast as we can gas up the buses. If youi were born American then act like one. Call on your government to do it&#8217;s sworn duty and stop dragging their feet. I was born in The U.S.A. before it became the U.S. of Mexico, Puerto Rico, Panama etc. Stick your  Spanish language SIGNS and INSTRUCTIONS where the sun does not shine!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 16:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wells is correct and we do need a socialist economy, in which the Workers own and control the means of production (not the state, as this biased definition contends.) Does Dr really want us to believe that the current system of capitalism, where workers are exploited at every level and the state is owned by corporate bosses, is somehow effective, humane, progressive, or worth saving? Since capital is trans-national, so labor should be. The international working class needs to stick together and not let vested interests and misguided anti-socialist Drs divide us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wells is correct and we do need a socialist economy, in which the Workers own and control the means of production (not the state, as this biased definition contends.) Does Dr really want us to believe that the current system of capitalism, where workers are exploited at every level and the state is owned by corporate bosses, is somehow effective, humane, progressive, or worth saving? Since capital is trans-national, so labor should be. The international working class needs to stick together and not let vested interests and misguided anti-socialist Drs divide us.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 00:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More socialist BS from the great Jerry Wells.He has it all figured out.All we need do is become socialist and our problems will be over.

     Main Entry: so•cial•ism 
Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Function: noun 
Date: 1837
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More socialist BS from the great Jerry Wells.He has it all figured out.All we need do is become socialist and our problems will be over.</p>
<p>     Main Entry: so•cial•ism<br />
Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\<br />
Function: noun<br />
Date: 1837<br />
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods<br />
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state<br />
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done</p>
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		<title>By: JerryWells</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerryWells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 20:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any attempt at &quot;immigration reform&quot; must be critically examined. This is especially true after Obama&#039;s so-called &quot;Health Care Reform&quot;, which excludes millions of non-citizen working people from the coverage. All &quot;immigration reform&quot; ideas I  have heard never deals with the cause of massive immigration, because true immigration reform would cut deeply into the profits of U.S. corporations doing business internationally, especially in Mexico and Central America. 

   1. True immigration reform must not further exploit, imprison,  deport and destroy the millions of working people and their children who often have lived and worked here for many years.
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights must extend to all working people living here without exceptions. 

    2. The focus of &quot;immigration reform&quot; must first focus on the causes of the massive flight from Mexico!  The majority of people living in Mexico are officially living in poverty. Immigration reform must address the many issues causing this immigration flow to the U.S.  Such as:
     * End the NAFTA and CAFTA treaties which forces privatization of government public social services, destroying these services and making them un-affordable and un-available except to the small middle-class and wealthy elite. Thus there is no popular health care system in Mexico, public education is not free to all and is unavailable in rural areas.
    * End the subsidies to U.S. agriculture, which allowed them to dump cheap corn into Mexico, forcing over a million subsistence peasants off their land, into the cities and then North. Utter desperation and fears of starvation and death are driving this migration north.
     * The forced impoverishment of Mexico by U.S. corporate foreign policy over decades has inevitably caused the civil corruption, drug wars, and made Mexico a &quot;failed state&quot; in the eyes of U.S. corporations, wanting to seize the state run oil for further profiteering. 
    Both corporate controlled Democratic and Republican parties, forever waging wars on behalf of the multi-national corporations and the military-industrial complex, have maintain the destruction of Mexico and Central America with the help of totally corrupted local elites. The richest man in the world is a Mexican who seized the privatized telephone company in Mexico.
    * The U.S. has overthrown democratically elected governments in Central and South America to maintain the profit of multi-national corporations. Allende in Chile, Arbenz in Guatemala, The &quot;contra&quot; war in Nicaragua. The attempted coup and continuing subversion of democratically elected Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, the half-century blockade of Cuba, etc. 
(Also in the Middle East the overthrow of Mosedegh in Iran because Mosedegh nationalized the oil resources away from the
British petroleum interests.) etc.etc.etc.   
 
    THE MAJOR ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL CRISES DESTROYING MILLIONS OF WORKING PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY, MEXICO, LATIN AMERICA AND THE WORLD CANNOT BE BLAMED UPON TERRORISTS ANY MORE THAN THEY COULD BE BLAMED UPON THE COMMUNISTS DURING THE COLD WAR ERA. 

    But this knowledge of historical and present day reality is forever denied working people due to the corporate owned mass media, the corporate controlled Democratic and Republican Parties, and the conservative &quot;business partner&quot; leadership of organized labor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any attempt at &#8220;immigration reform&#8221; must be critically examined. This is especially true after Obama&#8217;s so-called &#8220;Health Care Reform&#8221;, which excludes millions of non-citizen working people from the coverage. All &#8220;immigration reform&#8221; ideas I  have heard never deals with the cause of massive immigration, because true immigration reform would cut deeply into the profits of U.S. corporations doing business internationally, especially in Mexico and Central America. </p>
<p>   1. True immigration reform must not further exploit, imprison,  deport and destroy the millions of working people and their children who often have lived and worked here for many years.<br />
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights must extend to all working people living here without exceptions. </p>
<p>    2. The focus of &#8220;immigration reform&#8221; must first focus on the causes of the massive flight from Mexico!  The majority of people living in Mexico are officially living in poverty. Immigration reform must address the many issues causing this immigration flow to the U.S.  Such as:<br />
     * End the NAFTA and CAFTA treaties which forces privatization of government public social services, destroying these services and making them un-affordable and un-available except to the small middle-class and wealthy elite. Thus there is no popular health care system in Mexico, public education is not free to all and is unavailable in rural areas.<br />
    * End the subsidies to U.S. agriculture, which allowed them to dump cheap corn into Mexico, forcing over a million subsistence peasants off their land, into the cities and then North. Utter desperation and fears of starvation and death are driving this migration north.<br />
     * The forced impoverishment of Mexico by U.S. corporate foreign policy over decades has inevitably caused the civil corruption, drug wars, and made Mexico a &#8220;failed state&#8221; in the eyes of U.S. corporations, wanting to seize the state run oil for further profiteering.<br />
    Both corporate controlled Democratic and Republican parties, forever waging wars on behalf of the multi-national corporations and the military-industrial complex, have maintain the destruction of Mexico and Central America with the help of totally corrupted local elites. The richest man in the world is a Mexican who seized the privatized telephone company in Mexico.<br />
    * The U.S. has overthrown democratically elected governments in Central and South America to maintain the profit of multi-national corporations. Allende in Chile, Arbenz in Guatemala, The &#8220;contra&#8221; war in Nicaragua. The attempted coup and continuing subversion of democratically elected Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, the half-century blockade of Cuba, etc.<br />
(Also in the Middle East the overthrow of Mosedegh in Iran because Mosedegh nationalized the oil resources away from the<br />
British petroleum interests.) etc.etc.etc.   </p>
<p>    THE MAJOR ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL CRISES DESTROYING MILLIONS OF WORKING PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY, MEXICO, LATIN AMERICA AND THE WORLD CANNOT BE BLAMED UPON TERRORISTS ANY MORE THAN THEY COULD BE BLAMED UPON THE COMMUNISTS DURING THE COLD WAR ERA. </p>
<p>    But this knowledge of historical and present day reality is forever denied working people due to the corporate owned mass media, the corporate controlled Democratic and Republican Parties, and the conservative &#8220;business partner&#8221; leadership of organized labor.</p>
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